This is the list of labels and distros who ripped us off or just appeared to be very unreliable. Be careful in collaboration with them! If you think that your presence in the list is a mistake happened due to some other reasons (e.g. communication problems or incorrect work of postal services), please contact us and let's fix those unfinished deals. Black Widow records (Italy) Black Widow Via del campo, 6 r 16124 Genova italy Fall 2004 I've sent 12 CDs (various) that they asked. 2 months later I've received the pack with 4 Black Widow's CDs and 8 my CDs (all of them were far from mint state, 1 of them even came cracked) and a sheet of paper with something like "there were no doom, gothic or black among the CDs you've sent, so we couldn't sell them". Of course, a lot of opinions can be there, but mostly Forgive-Me-Not is assumed gothic, Scald and Cumdeo are assumed doom, etc. Not rip-off, but very unpleasant episode it was...   Dawn Of Sadness (Italy) DAWN OF SADNESS Cp 317 07100 Sassari ITALY We traded once in 2005. He sent his CDs only after receiving my pack (as he re-used my cardboard box) and he sent 2CDs less without any explanation (18 instead of 20) and he ignored all my e-mails and ICQ messages. I just don't understand why such mistake can make the partner ignore me.   Eat Metal Records (Greece) EAT METAL RECORDS c/o JIM VAGIANNIS AKADIMIAS 84 10678 - ATHENS GREECE In March 2006 I've sent him 50 CDs. I haven't received anything in 2 months. Several times I mailed him but nothing in response. In 2007 I've asked another greek partner to ask him about this. He contacted me and told me that he was sure that me either got the pack or was going to get it. He promised to send the pack again but again neither I got any stuff from him nor I got any response. Only in spring 2008 Eat Metal agreed to give those CDs to my greek partner who sent them to me. Very strange episode it was, afaik Eat Metal is known as good partner in Europe...   Extremist Records (USA) EXTREMIST RECORDS 601 Wrens Path Akron, Ohio 44319 USA In October 2004 I've sent him 22CDs. Neither CDs nor response from him from that time. Rip-off.   Funeral Records (aka Peri Management) (Italy) GILBERTO PERI VIA STEVENSON 24 00162 ROMA ITALY We made 1st trade in the spring of 2005 without any problems, but when we decided to trade 13 more CDs, his pack hasn't come (it could be lost). I'd told him about this and he promised to send it again, but nothing yet come.   Grom Records (Serbia) Milan Rakic Vuka Karadzica 12 25263 Prigrevica SERBIA In April 2007 I've sent him 8 CDs. Neither responce nor CDs from that time. I know that this bastard is drug-dependent, so don't have any deals with him. Rip-off.   Oak Knoll Productions (USA) Oak Knoll Productions c/o Jeremy R. Bennett 72 Handy Street Attleboro, MA 02703 USA In the end of 2005 we had a big trade and among received CDs there were 9 unusable CDs and 6 CD-Rs. Several times they asked me about a new trade but each time when I reminded them that they have to replace unusable CDs and to compensate the CDs that appeared CD-Rs (strange that some people can't see the difference between pressed CD and cyanine CD-R with the label made with inkjet printer) they prefer not to respond at all.   Perish In Light (Germany) Thomas Langefeld Raderstr. 50 42499 Huckeswagen Germany In summer 2005 we had traded 13 CDs. In the pack he sent some items (afair, 2 booklets and 2 CDs completely) were missing. After telling him about this fact, he hadn't replied, but did send another pack with missing CDs but instead of missing booklets he sent the same CDs and inlays also without booklets. Not a rip-off, but probably either his english or his attentiveness is too bad.   Ravenheart Records (Czech) Hlisnikovsky Zdenek Radova 1440 739 34 SENOV Czech Republic In 2004 we've traded 10 CDs. He sent 10x of his pro CD-R release and when I told him that CD-Rs cost 2x less than pressed CDs even if CD-Rs are pro-done he refused to compensate this and to understand the difference between pressed CD and pro-done CD-R.   Somber Music (Brazil) CLąUDIO MAZOTI PO Box 2089 06194-970 Osasco / SP BRAZIL In August 2006 I've sent them 38 CDs. I'd written him several times, but neither CDs nor responce I've got. Rip-off.   The LSP Company (former Shiver Records) (Belgium) THE LSP COMPANY BVBA ANTWERPSESTEENWEG 106 2350 VOSSELAAR BELGIUM In summer 2006 I sent them 90 CDs but nothing came from them. I mailed them several times but only in summer 2007 I'd got an answer with the promises to make the situation clear ASAP. And again neither CDs nor more answers. Rip-off.   The Miskatonic Foundation (UK) THE MISKATONIC FOUNDATION PO BOX 599 HUDDERSFIELD HD5 0XD U.K. In autumn 2004 we've sent them a pack with 20CDs. In responce we were told that their pack came back. After this Rich told us that his partner ripped his off and he is out of money and out of CDs. But as we know, the label works now but we haven't got either tradestuff or any explanation.   Underground Resistance Distribution (Serbia) Micic Milorad Brace Rabrenovic # 1 32250 Ivanjica SERBIA In summer 2006 I've sent him 35 CDs and nothing I've got in exchange. 100% rip-off, many labels were ripped off by this bastard.   Vicious Recordings (aka Selbstmord Services) (Sweden) vicious recordings box 237 301 06 halmstad sweden In February 2005 I've sent them 17 CDs. After several months when I mailed them they responded that they sent the pack and were sure that I'd got it but if not they are going to send it again. Nothing came. 100% rip-off, many labels were ripped off by this label that is nevertheless real label with real releases. * * * Below you can find such lists sent by other labels. If you were ripped off by anybody, please send us your report and it will be put here (but of course you'll be responsible for the report). Reported by Stygian Crypt: Asian Hordes distro (Philippines) Blasphemy productions (Brazil) Dark Realm productions (Philippines) Death Rape records (USA) Doom records (Mexico) Eldritch music (Belarus) Impaled productions (Slovenia) Supreme Music Creations (Greece) "I want to notify, that my label was ripped off by belorussian label ELDRITCH MUSIC. I sent them my package for trade in may and they received this package in the end of june. Since this time they not sent me nothing. They wrote me, that they have financial problems. In last message they wrote me, that they'll send me trade stuff in december. I not received nothing from them now and they not answered to my messages. From another guys i know, that ELDRITCH MUSIC stopped their activity and working now through label TAT TVAM ASI. You must be careful with them. Never not send them your stuff first !" [Andrew/STYGIAN CRYPT PRODUCTIONS] Andrew from Stygian Crypt productions here. I want to notify, that my label was ripped off by slovenian label Impaled productions. I sent them my trade stuff in the beginning of december and they received this package in the middle of january. Since this time i not received nothing from them. I sent to Black (it is guy from Impaled prods.) many messages, he wrote me, that he'll send me package tomorrow, after tomorrow etc, etc, etc. Finally he not sent me nothing and last three months he not answered to my letters. You must be careful with this bastard. Never not send your stuff first to following adress : IMPALED PRODS. (called Black) DRKS - P.O.Box 1618 - 2113 Maribor - SLOVENIA www.drks.org info@drks.org impaled@email.si   Reported by Elena Asteriadh (Metal Fighters): Extreme Brutal Sickness (Indonesia) a bastard of INDONESIA extremebrutalsickness@hotmail.com (but he changes e-mails all the time) DANNY ARIEF.D. POST OFFICE BOX ENAM SATU ENAM PULUH 6160 / JKSGN JAKSEL 12061 JAKARTA INDONESIA he own me 15 shirts and 20 cds place it in your website please and alert people to avoid anyone of Indonesia cause he or she change all the time.. now he say that he is a woman   Another reports collection: PULSAR LIGHT Records (ITALY) Still owes us over 70 cds that we've shipped a year ago! Various e-mails didn't do it! We know they riped off various past associates in the last few years. Be on the look out if you deal with that "label"! IMPALED Productions (ESTONIA) We've shipped them 15 cds in trade for their first release without ever getting anything in returno close to a year ago! Numerous e-mail then 1 reply "sorry, our apologies, we ship right away" and then no more replies to any of our e-mailso and obviously no package never showed up! FATHER PRODUCTIONS (LATVIA) We have shipped them 7 cds and we never got anything back except one e-mail, like 4 months ago , saying "sorry for the delay, sending soon" and since theno nada! We have sent our stuff out on June 6th 2004! 7 cds is not the end of the world but still, it sucks being riped off like that! EMBRACE MY FUNERAL (MEXICO) We've shipped our package before the end of September 2004 and in december we've e-mailed the guy in charge asking what was going on with our package - no reply whatsoever in January, we e-mailed again and got a link to his website for an answer. So we are not expecting anything from this so-called "label" obviously.. we got ripped off again! E.E. RECORDS (GERMANY) That dumbass riped us off about 15 cds.. Wehave traded with this so-called serious label early 2005 and we are still waiting for its package or a reply to our many e-mails in November. Well, life goes on. But please be careful if you deal with that dick! And he's stupid enough to add us to his mass e-mails asking for new trades etc. We have no time to deal with ass holes, life's too short! EXORCISE MUSIC (PORTUGAL) Just 5 cds still, it sucks getting ripped off like that ! No reply to our e-mails and allo is this scene going to hell with all of those fake labels, idiots corrupting the scene!? Well, they will all end up in here!   Reported by Oriana Music: SELBSTMORD SERVICES IS RIP-OFF!!!! SELBSTMORD SERVICES OWE ME 125 CDs I'VE SENT MY PART OF TRADE TO HIM IN THE BEGINNIG OF JULY AND HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING FROM HIM FOR THIS TIME. ONLY THAT HE WROTE ME (IN OCTOBER) "aha, ok... " THAT'S ALL AND NOTHING MORE TILL NOW!!! IF YOU DON'T WANT TO THROW YOUR MONEY OR STUFF TO THE FOUR WINDS - DON'T HAVE ANY DEALS WITH SELBSTMORD SERVICES!!!! AS FOR RIP-OFFER "SELBSTMORD SERVICES" or "DEVIL'S MUSIC" or "VICIOUS RECORDINGS": NOW SELBSTMORD SERVICES HIDE UNDER THE NAMES OF "Vicious Recordings" AND "Devil Music". ASK THE FOLLOWING ABOUT BUSINESS WITH THESE BASTARDS LABELS: Dark Horizon Records: Selbstmord owed 50 cd's for two years Eclipse Production: after more than one year he send all what owed Nuclear War Now! Prod. : he keeps on promising to send trade stuff about 5 months Northern Silence: first order took after about 2 years, next - after 4 months Pagan Records: sent him 40 CD's more than two years ago and never received anything back! Black Seed prod.: had to wait for 8 months for their stuff from a trade, but finally got it... Cryptia records : 130 cds , 1 year ago and still nothing from him AND MANY OTHERS..... WE HAVE TO DEFEND OUR UNDERGROUND FROM SUCH FUCKING THIEFS! BANDS & LABELS! DON'T HAVE ANY DEALS WITH THEM!!!! ARE YOU NEED IN SUCH "GOOD" DISTRIBUTION?!!   One more report: Ricky Lockett - Burnnig dogma records burningdogma@hotmail.com Ten months ago I sent him 10 Cd s of Fermento but He never sent to me his Cd s. He doesn t answer my mails. Edgar de Disgorge (Mexic) This is a great bastard, I ve organised two concerts in Barcelona With Disgorge, we made a trade in the last concert and two months later He asked for more Cd s (10 Ferment s Cd) which was sent to Mexico by me But he never sent me his part of the trade. He doesn t answer my mails but He does with other ones who are friends of mine. He s a fucking thief and idiot. deadgoblin@hotmail.com Wolverine Storm zine He stole five interviews of Mandragora zine and then he accused to the editor of stealing these interviews. Another bastard!!! http://es.geocities.com/wolverinestormzine WolverineStormZine@hotmail.com THESE LABELS HAVE CONVENIENTLY RIPPED US OFF: AUSTRALIA-BLOODHARMONIC RECORDS / ITALY-GOREGORE RECORDS THEY DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO REPLY OUR E-MAILS AND EXPLAIN. BE CAREFUL. CAN YOU DIFFUSE THIS this people are rip of : malignant-art@malignant-art.com.br malignant art distribucao is a robber this a: VOLEUR, ROBBER,DIEB,LADRO,LADRON robber   Reported by Amputated Vein Records Hey, Amputated Vein Records here. We want to let you know. If you run a label or distro, or you have a mailorder, do not trade with fucking GAY "Mario Cuber" from Costa Rica-Central America. Probabry he will offer you "ALASTOR SANGUINARY EMBRYO" CDs in trade. But he won't send you anything. We sent our 10 cds to this GAY in Nov 2004, but we haven't got anything from this GAY until now. So be careful ! Here is the address of GAY named "Mario Cuber" from Costa Rica-Central America. He needs only big cock. If you are GAY, leave for costa rica soon. He is waiting for you. MARIO CUBERO APDO 93-4030 ALAJUELA COSTA RICA - CENTRAL AMERICA - And be carefull also the following gays. We sent too many emails to Mario Cubero over a half year, but no answer from him. On August 30th, we got email from him, so after we sent "Rip off alart" to you and other labels. He hadn't sent his cds. He said recently he sent his cds with registered. We hope we could receive it. If we didn't send Rip off alart, then he might be going to rip us off, we are not sure though. Anyway, when we got his cds, then we are gonna send email to you again about he was not a rip offer, and apologize to him for using offensive word. Just for your information, we haven't got trade stuff from the following bands and labels / distros. We decided we don't say "Rip offer" or something like that word. We don't know definitely they are rip offer, but the only thing that we can say to you is "be careful". Undying Music (Indonesia) Asian Hordes Distro. (Philippines) Pyrolagnia Rec. (Russia) Goreblaster Distro. / Gored (TX,US) Wasteform (NY,US) Carnality (GA,US)   Reported by Propaganda: PROPAGANDA is here. We'd want to take some your time but it deserves your attention. Rip-off of philippines' level has appeared in Europe. Remember this wormy name: micic milorad from Serbia. Be cautious with this bastard hiding under different names (miki, Moloch, Knjaz Nazgul) and e-mail nosferatu@EUnet.yu. He tried to deceive us on 29 cd's offering the trade and interview for S.M.A.G.P. 666' zine (though the real editor of this zine told us that he has nothing to do with him). Under the name of "underground resistance distribution" he offers for trade and sale so-called top releases. At-first he wanted to get LUCIFUGUM "The Supreme Art of Genocide" CD's, but after our answer "no problem, but you should send your part of trade first" he refused from the trade, motivating that he already has 30 copies. Moreover (!), he has told that he hears about this trade for the first time and that last time we talked to other person (though from editor of S.M.A.G.P. 666' zine we know that this rat runs "distro" by himself only). A standard cheap trick for those who use different names from one e-mail address. Also we have got the message from Griffin Music. The label informed us that they also had the same experience of communication with this gipsy rat. This time this bastard had only two names: Konstantin and Moloch. Again he offered so called "headline" bands for trade, and again has refused from the trade after the requirement to send his part first. And again this rat has left its dirty traces. Southern Warfare Prod. (Chile) was deceived by this ass-hole. One more fact: the message which has been received recently from Venedae band (Poland): "This scum owe me 10 CDs for trade since June... He has got my stuff for trade as first (1 T-Shirt, 5 Tapes and 7 CDs) and wrote he send out 10 CDs for trade, but this package was stolen etc. Maybe you'll be interested in that fact... Kill him!" So you're warned. Be cautious when going to deal with someone from Serbia, this case is not the single though the most "bright". We have not appeared deceived only because were attentive. With Diabolical Obsession and scorn of life, PROPAGANDA   Reported by Snakebite prod.: DARK REALM PRODUCTIONS Rhazel Gerona c/o Emelie Secretaria 3/F Moneygate bldg., Ponciano st., Davao City 8000 PHILIPPINES. dark_realmproductions@yahoo.com => RIPPED OFF SNAKEBITE PROD 10 CD & AMPUTATED VEIN RECS 8 CD Clean up your scene of these brats and perhaps one day in some future, we could consider working with your country. Sorry, kill the rip offs first!!!! ASIAN HORDES distro c/o J.Ryan & Nikki POB. 376 Bliss Carmen Davao del Norte 8101 PHILIPPINES ASIAN HORDES distro P.O. Box 176, Panabo Davao del Norte, 8105 PHILIPPINES asianhordes@hotmail.com => RIPPED OFF AMPUTATED VEIN RECS (8 CD), RAVEN MUSIC & STYGIAN CRYPT PROD (14 CD). DECAPITATED RP c/o Ace Morandante PH.BLK 17 LOT 6 Roseville Subd.,Lanang,Davao City PHILIPPINES 8000 decapitated@eudoramail.com   CHARVY GUBAT, ph.4 dona asuncion, apalit ave. bo. Pampanga, davao city 8000 PHILIPPINES This guy offer my CD's for trade, but i never trade with him. => RIPPED OFF DIAMOND PROD 20 CD FROST MOON PRODUCTIONS Steve Quipse Blk 16 Lot 2, Centro Plaza N.H.A. MA-A Davao City 8000 PHILIPPINES stevekiller31@yahoo.com => RIPPED OFF FEAR SOME RECORDS & ANIMATE RECORDS WRATH DESPAIR DOMINATION Christopher Montecillo, Km. 6 #597 Carnation St., Buhangin, Davao City 8000 PHILIPPINES wrath_despair@eudoramail.com => RIPPED OFF ORDEALIS RECORDS Contact : bestialabyss1@hotmail.com PHILIP CUIZON G-149 Santol St., Buhangin,Davao City, PHILIPPINES 8000 P. OJEDA ECUADOR p_ojeda@hotmail.com => RIPPED OFF 3 T-SHIRTS & 2 CD's TO SONIC CORRUPTION (AUSTRALIA) WARLORD DISTRO INDONESIA warlordsdistro@yahoo.com => RIPPED OFF 3 T-SHIRTS TO SONIC CORRUPTION (AUSTRALIA) RUSTAM/Infernal Distro Jl:Prapanca No:17B Keb-Baru/Jakarta 12160 INDONESIA infernal_horde@yahoo.com Jl:Lotus Jingga No:43 Bukit Palem Estate-Kotabumi Pulomerak-Cilegon Banten-42436 INDONESIA linda_devilchick@yahoo.com DALMATIONS RECORDS c/o Sopyan Jl:Chairil Anwar Gank Perintis RT 001/05 No:62/17 Kereo Ciledug 15156 Tangerang INDONESIA www.dalmations.i-p.com infofp@yahoo.com HENNY WATI Jln.Mekar No.28 Rt:007/Rw:04 Tanjung Barat/Ps.Minggu-12530 INDONESIA => RIPPED OFF ABOUT 55 CDS TO MERCILESS REC. (GERMANY) OCCULTISM (or OCULTISMO) MAGAZINE or LORD OCULTUS A/V MORRO SOLAR 1710 RESIDENCIAL MONTERRICO SUR SANTIAGO DE SURCO LIMA 33 PERU or CHRISTIAN FELIPE PAUCAR AVENIDA MORRO SOLAR 1712 MONTERRICO SUR SURCO LIMA 33 PERU Beware of this DELINQUENT !!!!This jerk called CHRISTIAN FELIPE PAUCAR TOLEDO has been ripping off several bands, labels and Magazines around the world, using the name of our well known Magazine, DEATHTHRASHER. DEATHTHRASHER MAGAZINE has nothing to do with this scum, whose only goal was to obtained free stuff from people in the Metal world. His "technique"included the offering of the front cover of the Magazine, tour dates in Lima -Peru, and songs in a Compilation he said he was working on. This scum also included T- shirts and the claim of a supposed Manager, that never existed, but who was always rushing bands to send their material as soon as possible, with the excuse of a deadline. THIS ASSHOLE NEVERHAD ANYTHING, WAS NEVER PART OF ANY MAGAZINE, NEVER HAD A MANAGER,NEITHER A RECORD LABEL NOR A WEBSITE. HE IS JUST A SIMPLE BASTARD WHO LIKESTO GET STUFF FOR FREE AND THEN SELLS IT IN A PLACE CALLED "GALERIAS BRASIL" IN LIMA - PERU.Now that his scam has been uncover he is using the name of OCCULTISM MAGAZINE, OCULTISMO MAGAZINE or LORD OCULTUS for the same purposes explained lines above. There is no proof of the existence of such Magazine, in fact if any of you guys ask him for a copy or whatever,he won't send you anything because that publication does not exist.He is not using his real name CHRISTIAN FELIPE PAUCAR TOLEDO anymore because he knows that everybody is aware of his"practices". RIP OFFS e-mails : ocultismomagazine@hotmail.com ocultismomagazine@latinmail.com christianpaucar@hotmail.com thrasherfanzine@hotmail.com Phone (511) 275-1360 => RIPPED OFF THE BAND LITHAM (30 CDs !!!) to be in the fisrt page and featured in the next issue of the 'DEATHTRASHERS MAGAZINE" he NEVER WORKED in this magazine!!! => RIPPED OFF TORTURER (Chile) with 17 CDs, SUFFERING DOWN (Spain) with 10 Digi CDs => RIPPED OFF NECROTORTURE LIVE & PROMOTION AGENCY (Italy), GRINDETHIC RECORDS (UK), LAGRIMAS NEGRAS (Spain), MORBUS (Venezuela), INFEST MAGAZINE (Peru) with lots of stuff. ... etc, etc... SHOUTS OF METAL WEBMAGAZINE YUSEF IVANCOVICH PEREZ AV. LOS ANDES 950 LA VICTORIA - CHICLAYO PERU www.shoutsofmetal.com yusef@shoutsofmetal.com => RIPPED OFF SNAKEBITE PROD. WANTED PROMOS FROM SNAKEBITE & OTHERS.., NEVER MADE ANYTHING IN RETURN ! DIDN'T ANSWER OUR E-MAILS, HE ONLY WANTS CDS FOR HIS OWN COLLECTION, THIEF ! SEPULCRAL zine EDDY JUAREZ CHAMBA AV. BS. AS. 805 PP.JJ. 9 DE OCTUBRE SULLANA -PIURA PERU => RIPPED OFF SNAKEBITE PROD. WANTED PROMOS FROM SNAKEBITE & OTHERS.., NEVER MADE ANYTHING IN RETURN ! DIDN'T ANSWER OUR E-MAILS, HE ONLY WANTS CDS FOR HIS OWN COLLECTION, THIEF ! CALDA Communications P.O. Box 733 SE 11479 Stockholm SWEDEN Received from us 5ts total of 25pts NOTHING IN RETURN RIP-OFF!!! CHRIS SALAZAR 416 Mesquite, Seguin TX 78155 USA. PRIMITIVE RECORDINGS USA DEATH RAPE RECORDS C/O Anthony Hoyes 251 N.Palm # 35 Blythe, CA 92225 USA Gorelord666@cs.com => RIPPED OFF ANDREW FROM STYGIAN CRYPT PRODUCTIONS CHOP2DEATH RECS MALAYSIA chop2death@hotmail.com => RIPPED OFF 5 CD's & 10 US$ TO SONIC CORRUPTION (AUSTRALIA) DARK COLOSEUM c/o Hasrol Harith MALAYSIA darkcoloseum@hotmail.com (send to us by scabby coco) Reported by Naru From OBLITERATION Records : STILL DEAD PRODUCTIONS JULIUS POLCZYNSKI 03-933 WARSAW UL. OBRONCOW 2A POLAND Contact : stilldead@stilldead.com => RIPPED OFF GOLDENLAKE PRODUCTIONS 15 CD's, CAH RECORDS 13 CD's, OBLITERATION RECORDS 39 CD's!!!   Reported by Mike From DRAGON DESIGN : STILL DEAD PRODUCTIONS JULIUS POLCZYNSKI 03-933 WARSAW UL. OBRONCOW 2A POLAND Contact : stilldead@stilldead.com => RIPPED OFF DRAGON DESIGN "Some years ago they released a "Tribute To MERCYFUL FATE" Cd and asked me for drawing a coverartwork for it. I did and the Cd was released with it, but those guys never paid me for the drawing. Recently I came to their website http://www.stilldead.com/ and asked again for my money and they offered me to send Cds of their company instead of the money. We agreed and told them to send the Cds as soon as possible but we never received anything! I wrote tons of mails to them to ask about possibillities to get this problem solved, but they never answered again. As I know from some friendly Bands, most of the participating Bands on this "Tribute"-sampler also never received anything, not even a copy of proof of the Cd." [Mike/DRAGON DESIGN]   Reported by Danny From DAN'S CRYPT Records: EXTREME SOULS PRODUCTION espkiller_666@lycos.com destroyer@extremesouls.org or espdestroyer@hotmail.com P.O. BOX 7665 BDSE 40286 BANDUNG JAWA BARAT - INDONESIA => RIPPED OFF 18 CDS AT DAN?S CRYPT RECORDS....   Reported by DARK HORIZON: SELBSTMORD Services (date of trade 02/21/02) NIKLAS OLSSON KVARFORTH / SELBSTMORD Asastigen 20 132 35 Saltsjo-Boo SWEDEN Received from us 17cds 2 ts & 4lps total of 90pts NOTHING IN RETURN RIP-OFF!!! INFINATE DARKNESS Records (date of trade 05/22/01) FRANS WESTERVELD Oude Doetinchemseweg 4 NL-7051 DZ Varsseveld THE NETHERLANDS Received from us 10cds total of 40pts NOTHING IN RETURN RIP-OFF!!! PAINKILLER Records (date of trade 10/15/01) Rue Le Halleux, 18C 4550 Nandrin BELGIUM Received from us 17cds, 3x7", 2ts total of 81pts NOTHING IN RETURN RIP-OFF!!!   Reported by REVENGE PRODUCTIONS : Following people have ripped us off, so beware!!! Will Rahmer of MORTICIAN (owes me stuff / money for 5 years now!!!), Black Sun Rec. / Distortion Rec. / Dolores Rec. (Sweden), Oz Prod. (Mexico).   Reported by BLOODY LINE PROD : MALIGNANT ART Distribuicao malignant-art@malignant-art.com.br Av. Caminho do Mar, 2048 Rudge Ramos - Sao Bernardo do Campo S.P. CEP: 09610-000 Fone: 11 4177 24 51 => RIPPED OFF 12 iraven at dawn of the battle, 8 iraven/grimoria from the grave comes the storms / winds of chaos+ stickers and posters+ 3 cds promos for media and radio, ... to BLOODY LINE PROD (FRANCE) Fax: 11 4365 34 04   Reported by Die Poserwimp Productions: LIKHANG BAKAL ZINE I see that you been ripped off by the Rip-Off Syndicate of Phlippines. I have this guy asking for an interview (on my band Mot?rpenis www.myspace.com/thrashingmotorpenis) but I suspect he might use it to gain credit for easier rip-offs... you see, he has an online zine... www.freewebs.com/*likhangbakalzine* LIKHANG BAKAL ZINE C/O ACE MORANDANTE PH.1 BLOCK 17 LOT 6 ROSEVILLE SUBD.,LANANG DAVAO CITY 8000 PHILIPPINES   Reported by DEAD CENTER PRODS / ANTICHRIST MAGAZINE : Hellz! This is Aleksandr again with same problem as was sometime ago. Here's yet one bastard working amongst us! NEURALGIA prods / MALEFICARIUM 'zine hammered advertisement place in Antichrist #4 (issue was released back in October 2007!), full A4 page. Here's passed about 7 months as they "sending" advert payment (16 CD's). First time they wrote that pack was lost somewhere in the post, abd they "sent" yet one pack, but second pack, as they said - "was returned", and they will ship it again (for a 3-d time), so since their latest message passed more than month... I sent them some count of e-mails while this period and have no answers, in fact they have get all my messages ('coz on myspace shows last date when "owner" was on profile...). Also I've heard about their "work" of one German label and yet couple... Spread please this info! The addresses are(myspace): WWW.MYSPACE.COM/MALEFICARIUMAGAZINE, myspace.com/neuralgiarecords. Snail mail address is: JAIME CISNEROS. APDO.21034 08080 BARCELONA SPAIN This is Aleksandr again with same problem as was sometime ago. Here's yet two rip-offers working amongst us! 1) Asphyxiate rex hammered advertisement place in Antichrist #4 (issue was released back in October 2007!), full A4 page. Here's passed many months as they "sending" advert payment (16 CD's). First time they wrote that pack was lost somewhere in the post, and they "sent" yet one pack... And I still waiting for those pack. Writting to them MANY e-mails, but no answers same as package... Spread this info! The addresses are: www.asphyxiaterecordings.com www.myspace.com/asphyxiate_recordings Snail mail address is: ASPHYXIATE RECORDINGS PO BOX 646 LIVERPOOL, NSW 1871 AUSTRALIA 2) DESTRO RECORDS from USA They hammered advertisement place in Antichrist #4 (October last year!!), and still didn't sent payment. First times they wrote something like they have some problems and so on... And for the latest time they even aren't answering my e-mails... The contact: http://myspace.com/destrorecords http://destrorecords.com   Reported by Mike Devine : Warlord Distro (from Indonesia) is a COMPLETE Rip off! They also go by the name 'Andreas Distro' and i believe they use images of sexy metal-head girls to trick guys into buying there stuff. I was first messaged on myspace and she was 'flirting' with me in a way with smiley faces, *kisses*, '<333' (as in hearts) and she kept saying MUCH LOVE TO YOU BABY and stuff like that...... i was kinda grossed out. Like who does that? Haha. but then i looked at her pictures and distro list and found a couple very RARE shirts that i was interested in buying.. so she told me to send her $75 in a registered letter to a PO box. in Indonesia... at first i didnt feel safe doing it. but i eventually sent it, and its been almost 2 years now and she hasnt replied to my messages or emails. i should have went with my GUT feeling.... it also cost $25 to send that registered letter, because she told me to put the money in the back of a CD case.. so it was a heavy letter.. so overall i was ripped off for a estimate of total $100 US dollars.   Reported by Joshua Kemper: Warlord distro I got ripped off big time by warlord distro from indonesia i sent them $275 dollars for rare hoodies and shirts at wholesale price for my death metal distro Warsaw Distribution. Its been about a over a month and nothing. They have deleted there myspace and dont have there website up anymore. The last time they responded to a message they said they sent it out and that was three weeks ago. i didnt think i was getting ripped off until I came across this site and found warlord distro in the black list. After that i pretty muched knew i was scammed. Warlord Distro Donny Darmawan Jakarta Barat Indonesia